The Facebook interview: Nat Eguchi
by Luke Kristopher Davis
Louis and Nat Eguchi have had their Ipod application featured in the Banbury Guardian. I am curious about their success and how Nat has built up a curiosity for computer science. We also discuss other issues that we find important in our lives.
(Luke is in Italics)
What do you think of your recent success on your app?
it’s just proof that a simple app, with very modest marketing can achieve world wide reach in very little time. this, admittedly, has also been proven by the apprentice, but with our success it shows that a little known company can have the same impact.
The App, as you imply, brings to the world a whole new enterprise for companies wanting a quick entry into the world of E-business. Do you think Apple has had a significant change on the internet and business? If so how?
Before the opening of Apples mobile application market place the “App Store”, mobile applications were very much few and far between, with a market place dominated solely by games and simple utilities such as currency converters. with the advent of the Apple iPhone, 3G mobile internet and larger screen sizes, mobile smartphones such as the iPhone have been able to have more feature rich applications with dynamic and stunning content. the Apple iPhone has forced mobile application developers to make functional, well designed applications for smart phones, with fewer bugs and better experiences. Apple has managed to do this by entering the market place with a feature rich set of tools, content and support for developers to create applications for their device. this kind of all in one approach has not yet been reached on platforms such as android. the audited, high quality nature of the App Store makes for a very high number of repeat purchases from consumers and this is the key business model that apple has hit.
Apple has indeed become a ‘tour de force’ in the computing and technology area. Their ‘all in one approach’ as you say and their dedication to design quality has resulted in them having more collected dollars then the U.S government. Moving on from Apple and onto your own personal curiosity. Why do you create Apps and learn about the mechanics of computers? When did you start this interest?
My interest in computers apparently started from a very early age, when i was 3 years old, my dad used to bring has laptop (more like a PC back then) back from work every day and he would let me type random garbage on it (usually pages of G’s and F’s). I would then format it and make it look all pretty and he would print off these pages of rubbish when he went back to work the next day, I think it was probably the excitement of getting these back the next day that really got me into computers from a very early age. As i grew up and progressed through primary school it became apparent to the teachers that I knew a lot more than them about the computers and they would often call on me to help with their lessons. It’s rather funny when i look back through all my old school reports they were so scared that I knew so much, I think they thought I was some sort of spy. It was at the end of the summer of 2008 that i got my first real break into the world of programming.. We (my brother and I) were commissioned to create a website for a rally team. It was decided that it was going to be visually stunning and needed a database for all the content. Not knowing anything about this I did what I usually do when I hit a problem and googled it. A couple of months later and I had learnt Actionscript 2, PHP, SQL and created a website. And that is where i really got into programming. It was earlier this summer that my brother came to me with the app idea for totty and asked me whether I could do it, I said “Come back in an hour and i’ll see” so he did and i’d built the majority of it. it was such a simple idea, that it was easy to execute. I think the nice thing about programming is that you can see the results of your hard work almost instantly and that is most satisfying
i am terrible with this!
That is very interesting, I did a lot of research (for the world’s greatest brains series… which is still going) on great mathematicians, scientists, doctors, entrepreneurs and Nobel laureates and I found that, in their childhood they had an emotional attachment to their subject area, or they were completely filled with awe with nature or their own ability. I am not saying with certainty that you’re going to be successful, I am merely saying you fit the already established pattern. This funnily enough happened to me when I was about 7, my grandad bought me a light bulb, he pointed out the window and said ‘the sun gives us light and so does a light bulb’ I was like… yeah.. it does, ‘ he then said how can light come from two different things’. That question which at first seems simple but has fundamental physical importance, unleashed a curiosity for the governing dynamics of things.
What are your other interests? Are you an advocate of science?
I have interests in D.I.Y and Electronics, I fix everything in our house and am currently trying to repair a 1970’s pen plotter, which is extremely difficult as it has thousands of wires, components and switches and it didn’t come with a manual! I am interested in the way things work and especially how existing online systems work, I have previously hacked SAM learning to make me the “Top Learner” in our year and also hacked spotify to be able to download any song. The other day I managed to create an exact copy of 4ODs ad-serving infrastructure so I could replace the adverts on 4oD with my own, it’s these little fun things that really interest me. using existing systems to do something they weren’t designed for.
Classic stuff! Teach me how to download anything on Spotify! (obviously outside the interview) Just a pre-warning though, the FBI and UN are cracking down on hackers e.g. lulzsec which could be classed as a threat to national security. However, I don’t think they are too bothered with 40d atm. You seem very practical minded with your approach to ‘finding things out’, which is brilliant! I tend (try and will continue to for the rest of my life) to find ‘existing systems’ in nature and to try and understand these and find ways to use these systems for pleasure or for the benefit of humans. It may seem dull to others, but, as you well know, finding things out is a kinda fun.
What do you think of obstacles that restrain curiosity and learning… parents and teachers can sometimes be restraining? Do you think Religion is a restraint on progress.. on finding things out?
I, Surprisingly, find very few obstacles to my curiosity bar time, money and the amount of time i can stay awake before my mind turns to a boiled egg. I have been blessed with fairly “Of the reigns” parents. Another nice thing about the things I do is that religion rarely falls into the lines of what I do, and if it did, i would have to take a thoroughly atheistic argument. I think that some fundamentalists can be stuck in the past about what they accept of science and technology (but then again, isn’t the past the definition of fundamentalism?). I am not worried about this in respect to the pace at which we are finding things out as many of the key nations leading the discovery of new things in science and technology have a very “Hands off” approach when it comes to religion and science, putting the two in very distinct boxes. I think that there is a way of having both coexist. but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
A very mature and respectful attitude you hold. On my ipod I have a weird facts app ( oh yes another app), one of the facts states that the rate of gain of knowledge is so fast that 90% of what we know in the next 50 years will be discovered in those 50 years. I am glad you are able to explore your curiosity with minimal limits. Just one more question which I will ask future interviewees too…
what do you think of mattjwaller.com ?
It appears to be a very well written and edited blog, on par with a magazine for the quality of the articles. It’ll get you and matt far.
Thank you very much Nat! Let’s hope it does… we also hope you enjoy more success with your talents. Thank you for taking part in our first facebook interview, stay tuned for more! Adios Nat and readers!
I better get back to packing now!!